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> On Behalf Of Carrol Cox
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:40 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Contradictions of contemporary working class
> consciousness
>
> Michael is quite correct. I want to add an essential element of that
> bourgeois ideology: the conviction on the part of workers that they are
> powerless.
>
> What distinguished the '60s was the very nearly spontaneous assumption,
> which lasted only a few years, that the world could be changed by what we
> did. My radicalization was hurried, if not triggered, by rather
> non-political activity within the English Department: we began more and
> more
> to enjoy talking about ways in which we could usefully change department
> policy or affect teaching conditions. Someone eventually will write a huge
> volume, perhaps a multi-volume work, on the events from 1945 to 1960 that
> (behind our backs as it were) generated this social 'atmosphere'
> characterized by the assumption that what we did made a difference. And
> this
> carried over into the movements in which some of us participated: we found
> ourselves in action, on the assumption that it would make a difference,
and
> when that action met with resistance, quite a few of us turned
> revolutionary.
>
> A speculative suggestion: All serious mass movements, whatever their
stated
> goals, have only one goal: freedom, and that goal is defined in the
process
> of seeking it.
>
> Carrol
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-
> talk.org]
> > On Behalf Of michael yates
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:40 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: [lbo-talk] Contradictions of contemporary working class
> > consciousness
> >
> > Perhaps something missing from this discussion is the power of bourgeois
> > ideology. We are inundated with this from earliest age, from parents,
> > churches, media, and schools. No one escapes it or is uninfluenced by
it.
> > Unions come into being within it, and they are influenced by it. In good
> times
> > and bad times. Money, success, status, these have a powerful pull on us.
> It is
> > a wonder anyone sees through it and embraces a radical life. Because you
> > can be sure that if you do, many negative things will happen to you.
> >
> >
> > With respect to union leaders and rank and file, one thing that the
> workers
> > always have is the alienation they feel as they work. Most leaders no
long
> > feel this. So efforts to push for rank and file democracy and control
over
> the
> > union, led by workers themselves, can have a powerful impact on
> > consciousness that no amount of radical rhetoric by leaders far removed
> > from workplaces can have. Sustaining this is hard, however. Institutions
> have
> > to exist to support it and make it self perpetuating.
> >
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