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On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:43 PM, // ravi <ravi at platosbeard.org> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:55 AM, andie_nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find it hardly surprising, though. Both anarchists and right
>>> wingers share the same core values - extreme individualism, distrust
>>> of anything social, and visceral hatred of large organizations (in
>>> that sense, they are both petite bourgeois).
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> It seems from what you write that the real leftists have something quite the opposite (of extreme individualism, distrust of social, etc) as core values. So real leftists/unionists have as their core values collectivism and abiding trust in the social. What does that mean, in concrete terms? After all one sees anarchists working collectively, keeping the social in mind, so on. Clearly, there is something beyond this “shallow” sense of collective/social that unionists are privy to or work with. Is this the celebrated thing called “class”?
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> —ravi
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