[lbo-talk] Tim Wise loses it

[Wojtek S]

My problem with discussing any notion of deity is that it is a
mega-Rorschach blot - people project into it whatever they want, so the
word could mean anything and means nothing in particular.  A better way of
asking is what role does a belief in an entity that has attribute X play in
your life?"  where X is variable for things like more important than my
life, more powerful than human power, just, immortal, all-knowing,
benevolent, avenging (punishing/rewarding) etc which people typically
attribute to deities.  I would throw in other interesting attributes as
well such as male/female, artistic, beautiful/aesthetically
pleasing/invisible, parent-like, spouse-like, royal/presidential, etc.

wojtek

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Arthur Maisel <arthurmaisel at gmail.com>wrote:


> I've always been fond of St. Anselm's ontological proof (if God is the
> greatest thing, not existing would contradict his maximal greatness by
> definition, therefore he must exist)---not that I buy it, but I admire its
> elegance.
>
> And I've always been bothered by the word "believe" in the question "Do you
> believe in God?" People seem to use it as if it's equivalent with the
> "believe" in the question "Do you believe that another A train will come in
> a few minutes?" or (yet another nonequivalence) "Do you believe that water
> really is H2O?"
>
> A more interesting question is "What role does God play in your
> understanding of how things are?"---a question that people could talk about
> with interest in others' differing answers and without being tempted to use
> belief/nonbelief as a weapon.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Joseph has no respect for disability rights.
> >
> > There is no way I can follow that  cite.
> >
> > Carrol
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:
> > lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Joseph Catron
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 7:30 PM
> > > To: LBO; Progressive Economics
> > > Subject: [lbo-talk] Tim Wise loses it
> > >
> > > If you have the least concern what this character's saying, check out
> his
> > > Twitter feed quickly, before he sobers up and it's all deleted:
> > >
> > > http://twitter.com/timjacobwise <https://twitter.com/timjacobwise>
> > >
> > > --
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> mægen
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-- 
Wojtek

"An anarchist is a neoliberal without money."