On 2013-06-02, at 10:30 AM, Eric Beck wrote:
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>> Which obviously places me closer to the ISO and others who also identify
>> with the Marxist tradition, including on this list, than to those who
>> sharply criticize the ISO's "stale and anachronistic ideology" without
>> explanation and for whatever reason.
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> Okay, maybe you have me on filter, or maybe you just don't want to respond,
> but I'm stubborn enough to try again: The main point, as I took it,
> from the paragraph you quoted from St. Clair was that Trot groups are
> largely detached from the struggles, politics, and concerns of most workers
> and minorities. The coverup of rape and the unqualified support for that
> coverup indicates, overwhelmingly, to me that St. Clair is right, and that
> some Trots are not just amusingly irrelevant but dangerously and violently
> so. This is the relevant point, not whether their ideology is stale and
> anachronistic.
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> Can you argue against St. Clair on this point?
I don't condone the leadership coverup of the rape, nor do I agree with St. Clair's overwrought diatribe against the ISO and its Marxist ideology for reasons I've already explained, nor do I have you or anyone else on a filter.