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JOANNA A. 123hop at comcast.net
Wed Jun 12 10:33:53 PDT 2013


Disingenuous at best.

There is a diff between vehicular and internet traffic. (Though I'm not keen on the street cameras either).

The vehicular cameras capture the fact that you ran a red light or were speeding.

The internet traffic watch captures the fact that you called someone who called someone who called someone.....who called someone who is for some reason suspect. Suspect of what? Today it might be issuing a bomb threat; tomorrow it might be participation in a march. Who knows?

If you are anywhere within that sequence of calls, you are suspect and all your data is now accessible for viewing.

There's a difference.

Joanna

----- Original Message ----- Collecting information is not against the 4th amendement, whether this information is about vehicular or internet traffic. If they watch how and where you drive and have a probable cause to believe that you are doing something illegal, they can stop you or obtain a search warrant. Ditto for the internet traffic. If metadata gives them a probable cause, then there is not violation of the 4th.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com>wrote:


> c.f. 4th amendment
>
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 18:41, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How is it different from traffic cameras or cops
> > sitting in their cruisers and watching for speeders?
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