[lbo-talk] stupidity is most dangerous in people with high IQ

[Carrol Cox]

Marv G:  "The invasion was not solely or even primarily about military bases
and oil; wider strategic interests were at play. And it was a defeat, not a
victory, for US imperialism. This was the basis of our disagreement"

I seriously cannot comprehend _any_ of the key words here: "oil,"
"imperialism," "defeat." No one has said the invasion was about oil; it was
about _control_ of oil. There seems no common ground on which to debate.

Capitalist corporations (European, U.S., perhaps Russian & Chinese) now
handle Iraq's oil.  The presence of U.S. troops in Iraq make it impossible
for any Middle-Eat power to interfere with that control. Iraq, followed by
Libya and Syria, has been destroyed as an independent power. Iran is
completely encircled and the capacity of the Iranian government to subsidize
consumption has been destroyed.

If that is a defeat for imperialism (freedom for capitalist corporations to
operate on a global basis) I would hate to see what a victory would look
like. 

Carrol