[lbo-talk] Sects and vanguards - SDS, Weatherman, etc.

Charles Brown cb31450 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 06:11:41 PST 2014

"There is nothing but matter and, its mode of existence is motion. " - Fred Engels

In the 60's and 70's among some it was a given that there was a "movement", "the movement".

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Shag Carpet Bomb <gracehinchcliff at gmail.com> wrote:
> So I'm reading this book about the downfall of SDS, David Barber's _A Hard
> Rain Fell: SDS and Why It Failed
> Not bad. The author's argument is that SDS fell apart because they were
> riven by what came to be called white skin privilege or white chauvinism,
> which was central to and bound up with their "traditional American notions"
> of gender and nation which they were unable to overcome in spite of
> political struggle.
> Reading the book reminded me of how, when I was first introduced to marxist
> analysis - in the context of political struggle - not in a classroom, the
> common term was "political motion"
> Question: does anyone know who was most responsible for promulgating that
> term? A particular author?
> Barber also uses the term vanguard and describes the different ways in
> which SDS, the Black Panther Party,, the Vietnamese (at Havanah), the PL,
> RYM1, RYM2, and Weatherman all had an analysis of a vanguard.
> and yet I'm struggling to understand what the hell it means at the moment.
> Which is probably Barber's point: the way that white leftists would
> describe, for instance, the black struggle as the vanguard of social
> struggle but then turn around and reassert whites as the vanguard of social
> struggle.
> Not sure.
> R elatedly, Barber describes a sect as a group that proceeds with its
> analysis regardless as to the existing social struggles around them.
> Also, best discussion of the Havanah meeting with the Vietnamese I've read
> yet.
> Shag
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