[lbo-talk] Was Marx right? A return to a world Marx would have known

Charles Brown cb31450 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 31 15:55:30 PDT 2014

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Gar Lipow <gar.lipow at gmail.com> wrote:
> For good analysis Dougs piece is the best But De Long's piece has its own
> feature of interest. Not the beginning which deals with a cartoon version
> of Marx, but his conclusion. "The optimistic view is that our collective
> ingenuity will create so many things for people to do that are so
> attractive to the rich that they will pay through the nose for them and so
> recreate a middle-class society. The pessimistic view is that some pieces
> of (3) will be (a) mind-numbingly boring while (b) stubbornly impervious to
> artificial intelligence, while (4) will remain limited and for the most
> part poorly paid. In that case, our future is one of human beings chained
> to desks and screens acting as numbed-mind cogs for Amazon Mechanical Turk,
> forever.[1]" If that was intended as a *defense* of today's capitalism it
> is the weakest of weak sauce. Given that De Long is not brainless, my guess
> ia that this is a concession that even if he disputes Marx's logic, he
> acknowledges in today's world the correctness of his conclusions.
> http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/03/30/was-marx-right/marx-was-blind-to-the-systems-ingenuity-and-ability-to-reinvent

^^^^^^^^^^ CB: That's funny. Marx is right but he got the right answer with the wrong logic. That's hilarious !, Brad D.


> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Jim Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com> wrote:
>> Includes a piece by Doug Henwood, also Brad DeLong.
>> http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/03/30/was-marx-right/a-return-to-a-world-marx-would-have-known
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