On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> The passage quoted here was by Marv, not me.
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> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
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> Wojtek and Carrol are idealizing the relations which existed between
> > masters and slaves, lords and serfs, in order to make their dubious
> > point that the relationship between capitalists (deemed to lack any
> > sense of paternalistic obligation) and workers is incomparably worse.
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> I don't know if it's "paternalistic" or wholly rational, but contemporary
> capitalists certainly feel obligated to prevent the emergence of "let them
> eat cake" scenarios, at least within their immediate spheres, and are
> willing to put serious money into it. The charitable-industrial complex
> that exists in places like New York is proof of that. In social
> democracies, the welfare state serves a similar function.
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