[lbo-talk] Star Wars and the death of American cinema

JOANNA A. 123hop at comcast.net
Thu Dec 31 22:36:08 PST 2015


I spent a dozen years studying Shakespeare and taught Shakespeare at UC Berkeley, and it makes absolutely no sense to me, looking at his language or development or at the content of his plays, that he would be a nobleman.

Joanna

----- Original Message ----- Except that the Shakespeare works were probably written by Edward de Vere, who didn’t need the money, being the recipient of a munificent grant from the crown…

See now inter alia,

Mark Anderson, "Shakespeare by Another Name: The Life of Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford, the Man Who Was Shakespeare” (2005);

Richard Paul Roe, "The Shakespeare Guide to Italy: Retracing the Bard's Unknown Travels” (2011); and

Diana Price, "Shakespeare's Unorthodox Biography: New Evidence of an Authorship Problem” (2013).


> On Dec 31, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> No Hollywood producer is any more anxious to make money than was
> Shakespeare!
>
> Motive is pretty irrelevant. Samuel Johnson claimed a man who wrote for any
> other reason than making money was a blockhead. (I forget his exact
> language.)
>
> Carrol
>
>
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> Most great European directors over the last hundred years have regarded
> Holly wood films as the best to be had. This generic sneer at the near or
> the recent is really moldy w ith the mold of millennia.
>
> Carrol
>
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>
> On 12/31/15 5:50 PM, JOANNA A. wrote:
>> The films of the sixties and even the seventies marked a particular moment
> in the history of American cinema. Nothing before or after quite matched it.
>
> Is it possible that there's some genre conflation here? A comedy is not
> meant to be a tragedy, after all.
>
> The Twentieth Century. Some Like It Hot. It Happened One Night. The Great
> McGinty. The Palm Beach Story. The Bank Dick.
>
> One could go on and on, but are we blaming Aristophanes for not being
> Euripides? Everybody rightly hates the splenetic book reviewer who damns the
> book under his eye because it's not the book he would have written, if he
> could write books.
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