[lbo-talk] Am I or Am I Not Charlie?

[Charles Brown]

_Successful_ of the working class in the class struggle requires as a
prerequisite class and socialist consciousness in the a big minority
or majority of the working class, including understanding what the
opponent bourgeoisie think, plot, do. That consciousness comes mainly
out of participation in reform class struggles, such as for healthcare
reform or defending abortion rights, minimum wage, etc. That's why
it's foolish to discourage the working class from participating in
reform struggles in the Democratic Party. Only out of failures in
reform struggles will the working class become conscious of the need
for revolutionary, not just reform change.

Charles

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> No! Such understanding may _emerge_ from class struggle; such emergence may
> even be a precondition for _victory_ in that struggle. But it is absurd to
> see it as a precondition for  class struggle. And of course the proposition
> may be empty, depending on what is meant by "understanding ourselves."
>
> Carrol
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> It just may be that class struggle demands understanding both ourselves and
> our opponents as antagonists.
>
> Brian
>
> ---yes that's what I was trying to say.
>
> J
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