[lbo-talk] On the dangers of faux statehood

Joseph Catron jncatron at gmail.com
Sat Jul 25 00:56:16 PDT 2015


Huh. Maybe I'm confused about the distinctions, not sure.

What I am sure of, though, is that I'd much rather try going to some third country with any piece of official-looking paper Sweden cares to give me than a Palestinian passport.

In the event of some drama, it will then be the responsibility of the Swedish government, not the PA, to deal with it, yes?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Wendy Lyon <wendy.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:


>
>
> > On 24 Jul 2015, at 20:17, Joseph Catron <jncatron at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, "passports" vs. "travel documents" is one of those
> American/European
> > things. For us, they're the same, at least as I've always heard the
> terms.
> > Over there, I know "passport" often means "citizenship."
>
> No, they totally aren't the same thing. A passport is a passport - it's
> not synonymous with citizenship, though usually you have to be a citizen of
> a country to get its passport. A travel document is a document issued to
> someone who needs to travel internationally but is unable to obtain a
> passport. It may be that the terms are used interchangeably in common
> parlance in parts of the US, but the State Department distinguishes them
> and quite certainly so does the Swedish government.
>
> The passport index you linked to only ranks passports, not travel
> documents. A Swedish travel document would not have the same utility as a
> Swedish passport.
>
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