Less Crime, More Criminals (was Re: Damien): correction

Fellows, Jeffrey jmf9 at cdc.gov
Mon Mar 8 13:22:15 PST 1999

The data are separated by where they are in the criminal justice system. The privatisation issue is important for other reasons, but it is largely superfluous to the issue of incarceration rate changes. After all, the state still pays the bill. There is no hard evidence that I know of that shows private (largely min/medium security facilities) actually save society money.

-----Original Message----- From: Carrol Cox [mailto:cbcox at ilstu.edu] Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 12:41 PM To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com Subject: Re: Less Crime, More Criminals (was Re: Damien): correction

"Fellows, Jeffrey" wrote:

> .... so states with the biggest problems appear to be moving
> into intermediate sanctions for nonviolent offenders (between imprisonment
> and probation). This certainly says nothing about the problems of what
> are or are not criminalized,

I would suggest that the figure that counts most is not the number of people incarcerated but the number of people (including most crucially, juveniles) "involved in the criminal justice system": incarcerated, probation, parole, court supervision, juvenile detention, on bail awaiting trial, in jail awaiting trial, etc. Are aggregate numbers available on these? The ways in which this system can control and disrupt the lives of individuals are endless.

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