Loss (was Re: cynicism, irony and enjoyment)

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Mon Mar 22 16:08:25 PST 1999


Angela wrote to Alex L.:
>whoa Alex! that's exactly not what I was saying. is my writing that
>unintelligible, untranslatable... whatever? I do not think the film
>is a 'straightforward piece of fascist propaganda'.

With this much confusion in non-ironic communication, it is no wonder that we have yet to make little progress in our discussion of irony.

Isn't one of the most important distinctions between irony and sarcasm the fact that people say that irony can be 'lost' on the listener/reader/viewer whereas noone says the same about sarcasm (even though such losses can take place in any communication as illustrated by Angela's protest above)? Isn't this possibility of loss what makes irony enjoyable and even 'precious' to those who think that they 'get it' (whether or not they in fact 'get it,' much less create it)? Is it not why irony is one of the most sophisticated mechanisms to be used in the making of individualism, in that it allows you to experience an immagined community between you (the Reader) and the Author?

Yoshie



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