Desire & Scarcity (was Re: Desire under the Elms)

Michael Yates mikey+ at pitt.edu
Sat Jan 29 15:01:39 PST 2000


Why do you assume that Yoshie means sanitized and uncomplicated? I did not read her post this way at all. And the idea of bending utopia to humanity sounds pretty undialectical to me.

Michael Yates

Eric Beck wrote:
>
> Yoshie,
>
> >And we'll have sex and sensually enjoy bodies (our own & others') without
> >gender & "sexuality" (conceived in our modern fashion as the Truth of the
> >Self). The end of Platonic Love, the beginning of pleasant surprises &
> >lasting friendships.
>
> You mean sanitized and uncomplicated. Icky. Love/sex/desire without passion
> agony fear ecstasy jealousy anger joy sorrow desperation and all the
> attendant complex human emotions sounds dull and horrible to me. (I was
> reminded of this when I saw the movie The End of the Affair last weekend.)
> Expedient, yes; enjoyable, no.
>
> The thing is not to bend human desire--indeed, humanity--to fit utopia, but
> to make utopia conform to humanity--admittedly a much more difficult thing
> to accomplish.* But I for one would accept nothing less.
>
> Eric
>
> *We might begin by relieving ourselves of this notion that love, life, art,
> and revolution can be managed by Science. But I'll save that for another
> post.



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