debates was guilty / innocent was debates

kenneth.mackendrick at kenneth.mackendrick at
Sun Oct 15 18:51:10 PDT 2000

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Dennis R Redmond <dredmond at> wrote:

> But there's no such thing as pure desire, of course, just concretely desirous
(or desireable) subjects. Once you abstract desire, you end up with a fantasm of the credit superstructure (access not to the things themselves, but to the things which purchase other things), which pushes you over the border of Utopia into mundane, messy Ideology.

I always pegged the notion of the desire of desire as akin to Adorno's sense of nonidentity... The aim being to brush desire against itself to reveal its constitutive untruth - which is nothing other than the enjoyment of shit.

of passionate attachments, negative dialectics and the enjoyment of symptoms, ken

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