Zionism vs. Black Nationalism

Ian Murray seamus2001 at home.com
Mon Aug 6 21:02:20 PDT 2001


some who?

kelley

The guy behind that tree. Note we agree race

is socially constituted, and evidently we

agree it is not easily disconstituted.

In which case it is not realistic to airily

call for an end to racial self-identification.

On the other hand, one could accept this and

still see class as fundamental. In other words,

I say race is the filter through which people's

view of their class interest is obscured. Racism

is fundamentally instrumental towards something

else -- the perpetuation of social class.

Without classes (or hierarchy of some sort),

race would be without purpose.

mbs ======= Well, how can we tell whether in the course of ongoing social dialogue, that when we assert that race is instrumental in obfuscating class, that when success at that task is accomplished folks won't see class composition as rather heterogeneous [interests, preferences etc.]? And what do we say to those who are unapologetic individualists who see their identities connected to, say, religion or an enthusiam for athletics, or some such that has nothing to do with themselves as workers? Any union organizer can tell you that the most 'troublesome' workers to to engage are those who in one way or another are devoutly religious. How to overcome these obstacles?

Ian



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