----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Grimes" <cgrimes at rawbw.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Allies and opponents of US fall silent
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> Why us, we didn't create the problem. What are we to do, step up our
> criticisms of the Bible, Koran, Bhagavad-Gita etc. and reassert a
> secularism that provides no comfort to those who need something
beyond
> the cosmos itself to have meaningful lives. What's that old Arabic
> heretical saying that Dostoevsky was fond of stating `if god does
not
> exist everything is permitted'? Ian Murray
>
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> Why us?---the effete intellectual snobs---because it's our
> job.
============== This is part and parcel of the arrogance that has gotten the human species into such a pickle. It has nothing to do with snobbery. What's our job, to save humanity from itself? Just what would be the reply to "name a behavioral algorithm that's better than the golden rule" coming from the likes of a Donald Knuth [brilliant computer scientist who's something of a religious um...well just thumb through "Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About"
>Meanwhile, I still have to actually get through the Bible. I am
> only up to Samuel. I think, I thank the second century rabbinic
scholar
> who wrote it that, Ruth was short.
>
> It's four, I have to go hit rush hour traffic to find the obscure
> location in the Presidio that Doug H has managed as a venue in
SF---or
> I would go back to the idea that pomo isn't interested in
> transcendence. I think it is, despite its so-called protests to the
> contrary.
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Well the burden's on 'ya. Transcendence of what? Or as Sartre said, "no exit."
>
> Pomo who? Derrida, mainly, maybe Foucault. There is a potentially
> interesting interview with Foucault on the Iranian Islamic
Revolution
> which I scanned last night. It gave me the idea (Foucault, Politics,
> Philosophy, Culture, Interviews and other writings 1977-1984,
> Routledge, NY 1988, `Iran: The Spirit of a World Without Spirit',
> 211-224p)
>
> Chuck Grimes
>
> ps. What is PODMR?
>
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Plain old dumb material reality.........
Ian