Faith based discrimination

Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema crdbronx at erols.com
Wed Jul 11 17:19:30 PDT 2001


It's pretty important that gay rights, in so short a time, have come to have such legitimacy. It's like the widespread opposition to the Boy Scouts' demanding discrimination against gays. This is a truly momentous shift in attitudes. Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema

Kevin Robert Dean wrote:


> Well to be fair, an article from USA Today states that GW is backing down
> from this proposal.
>
> Bush backs off anti-gay proposal
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/july01/2001-07-11-gays.htm
>
> WASHINGTON - The Bush administration backed away from a proposed regulation
> Tuesday that would have allowed religious groups to receive federal funds
> even if they discriminated against gays and lesbians in hiring.
> [...]
> Controversy erupted Tuesday after The Washington Post reported that the
> White House had struck a deal with the Salvation Army, which is considered
> the nation's largest charity based on donations.
> Full Story:
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/july01/2001-07-11-gays.htm
>
> Of course, it doesn't make "Faith-Based" any more pleasing...
>
> ooooooooo
> Kevin Dean
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Grimes" <cgrimes at tsoft.com>
> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Faith based discrimination
>
> >
> > ``WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is working with the nation's
> > largest charity, the Salvation Army, to make it easier for
> > government-funded religious groups to practice hiring discrimination
> > against gay people,...''
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > This is just the tail of the tiger. Virtually all the civil rights
> > laws on the books started out as provisions in the regulations and
> > implementations of federal funding legislation that enabled a vast
> > array of federal grants and contracts (see Catalog of Federal Domestic
> > Assistance for a full listing).
> >
> > While the above article and the White House seem focused on state and
> > local municipality law, the bigger problem is at the federal
> > level. Virtually all federal project grants that are the target for
> > this right-wing religious pilfering of public money will run up against
> > a forty year history of civil rights law and regulation of social
> > services (i.e public accommodation).
> >
> > I would urge anybody out there working in anything from pre-school
> > programs to social policy research to get their lawyers ready to hit
> > this bullshit administration move with a massive legal assault. The
> > goal would be to jam the court system to a halt, since there is
> > little likelihood the mealy mouthed suck-offs on the bench will do
> > shit. They have pretty much discredited themselves entirely since the
> > Florida election debacle.
> >
> > If you all let this go by folks, then you can kiss civil rights
> > enforcement in federally funded programs good-bye. I don't mean
> > good-by in name only. I mean good-bye as a legal principle, period.
> >
> > Chuck Grimes
>
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