Bonapartism, Fascism & our new order & War

Micheal Ellis onyxmirr at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 21 06:18:48 PST 2002



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>CB: I have no problem with "quasi-fascist" from an analytical
>standpoint. It is just that it doesn't have the rhetorical impact of
>"The New Nazism". I don't think "quasi-fascist" has the shock value
>of " The New Nazism". We have to wake the American people up. They
>are going along with things like zombies.
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i just think 'the new nazism" is too easy to dismiss, applying it to say Israel is more accurate though it's nothing "new". there's just too many things about 'nazism" that just doesn't apply to the U.S. using "nazism" or whatever is too manipulative. we don't want to pervert reason in the process of education. that's not going to help anyone....

1. no ethno nationalism 2. the amount of victimization percieved or real even after 9/11 is minimal

it has to be rhetorically enhanced, it doesn't have any real resonance like

post wwI germany or post holocaust zionism, antisemitism etc. 3. the working class in the U.S. is too marginalized at this point to be a threat

to the power structure 4. the U.S. worldview ideology is predominant 5. it's not a police state.....

i sympathize with you about trying to induce more direct action but i don't think adhereing to total subjectivism and manipulation is the way to go....it sounds too familiar

"most groups of our people displayed an unbelievable ignorance of foreign affairs.Theoretical crankiness and hyper-patriotism were the characteristics of the German middle class. This type was also found among working class leaders as well as university professors, who had lost all understanding of politics." [Goebbels "knowledge and propaganda" 1928]

"The propagandists must think subjectively. Absolutely subjectively, one-sidedly! He has under all circumstances to avoid the notorious and dangerous German objectivism! He need not weigh right and wrong, he does not need to worry if there might be some slight truth on the enemy's side. Propaganda is concerned only with its goal, with its justice, its truth. All else is half truth. The more consistently, the more uniformly propaganda is applied, the greater will be its success--and the sooner success will come." ["propaganda" Schulze-Wechsungen 1934 germany]

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