[ASDnet] What does the "democratic" in "demoratic socialism" mean?

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Wed May 8 09:52:44 PDT 2002


C'mon David! You told me a while back that when Ron Radosh came back from Cuba in '74 and wrote up his critical reflections for the late, lamented magazine, Liberation (which, btw, Jimmy Carter speechwriter and current New Yorker editor, Hendrik Hertzberg, was connected to, no?), you hosted his slideshow at yur digs in NYC. (That article, along with others, like a particularly embarrassing one by CBS stringerm, Terrtance Cannon, are colleected in, "The New Cuba?, " edited by Radosh.) You are not unaware of the substantial critique by such as Sam Farber in New Politics (who Proyect calls a , "right-wing social democRAT, "

e: Cuban Genetic Engineering (was Jesse Lemisch) ... the seething hostility of >social democrats like Sam Farber who has written screeds against Cuba for >New Politics. > >Louis Proyect I'm not presenting Cuba as ... http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/2001II/msg04113.htm )

and Hunter Bear, when Stuart presented the critical piece on Paul Robeson, from New Politics, he anathematized as some scurrilous rightist, red=baitin' organ of counter-revolutionary opinion...) Ah well, y'all can see, I'm arguing ad personam, so I'll revert to my more academic tone ;-)

When Leo calls the Venceramos Brigade and/or Global Exchange tours, "Potemkin Village, " jaunts, perhaps, he has, like me, talked to more than a few returning sandalistas, that have not the slightest knowledge of the travails of the Cuban Revolution, it's internal struggles that have imprisoned many more leftist opponents of el Jefe Caudillo Maximo Fidel than externally financed Cuban-American National Foundation, "worms, " ala the Contras, have no knowledge of the previous history of Cuba, or deep background in the vagaries and vulgarities of, yes, Stalinism.

For those who might have or can/could have a political intelligence that can weigh and filter and evaluate the overdetermined logics of anti-imperialism and a truly, 'er, bona fide (!) revolutionary democracy that trusts the masses, see these sources.

French Trotskyist, Jeanette Habel, "Revolution In Peril, " Verso Books, early 90's.

Miami Herald reporter (btw, the gusanos at the CANF, boycott the Herald as leftist!), Andres Oppenheimer, "Castro:thE final Hour?, " Simon and Shuster, late 90's.

"Cuban Communism, "edited by Irving Louis Horowitz, Tranaction Publishers, 4th ed. just published.

On the incredibly naive perceptions of "progressives, " visiting the USSR, the PRC, Cuba and Vietnam, neo-con, Paul Hollander, "Political Pilgrims:Travels of Western Intellectuals in Search of the Good Society," 4th ed., New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Publishers, 1998.

I know I've posted Sam FGarber here before but, here 'tis again! http://www.wpunj.edu/~newpol/issue19/farber19.htm SOLIDARITY -- Against the Current ... Brenner Betsy Esch Sam Farber Dianne ... REVIEWS: Samuel Farber's Social Decay and ... and the Politics of Class ... Press, A New Flame Kurt ... WINDOWS ON CUBA TODAY: After ... www.igc.org/solidarity/atcMain.html Cuba ... Cuba Area. Sam Dolgoff, The Cuban ... Inequality, and Politics in Twentieth ... of Charisma (New York: Houghton ... Samuel Farber Revolution and Reaction in Cuba 1933-1960 ... www.geocities.com/stuart323_99/cuba.htm

Samuel Farber, "Cuba: The One-Party State Continues" New Politics, vol. 5, no. 3 (new series), whole no. 19, Summer 1995

Samuel Farber was born and grew up in Cuba. He is the author of Revolution and Reaction in Cuba 1933-1960 (Wesleyan University Press, 1976) and numerous articles dealing with that country. He teaches political science at Brooklyn College and is a member of the editorial board of Against the Current.

Corriente Socialista Democratica Cubana

Social Revolucionario Demoratico Cubano

Social-Revolutionary Democratic Party of Cuba

Coordinadora Socialdemocrata de Cuba

Partido Solidaridad Democrática Democratic Solidarity, a center-left political party, is active in nearly all the country's provinces

Institute of Independent Cuban Economists

Cuba Facts

Cuba: Reporters Without Borders

Human Rights Watch, "Cuba's Repressive Machinery: Human Rights Forty Years After the Revolution"

InterAmerican Commission for Human Rights, "Cuba Report 2000"

Pax Christi Netherlands "CUBA;THE REALITY BEHIND THE SYMBOL" (Report of a Youth Delegation 1996)

Pax Christ, "The European Union and Cuba: Solidarity or Complicity"

Pax Christi Netherlands published the 5th Cuba-report. In "The European Union and Cuba; Solidarity or Complicity?", with a preface of bisshop A.H. van Luyn s.d.b., the relation is evaluated between the EU and Cuba, after the opening of Cuba for foreign investments.

Pax Christi Netherlands:Cuba Activity Summary with links to reports

Douglas Payne, "Cuba: Systematic Repression of Dissent"

December 1998 (addressing country conditions through November 1997)

Consejo Unitario de Trabajadores Cubanos

Amnesty International, "A New Wave of Political Repression"

Amnesty International Cuba Country Report 2000

Independent Union Movement of Cuba (Moviemento Sindical Independiente de Cuba)

Manual for Working with the Democracy Movement in Cuba

CubaNet News

CubaNet

Center for Defense Information Cuba Area

Sam Dolgoff, The Cuban Revolution: A Critical Perspective Anarchist critique

Peter Taffe, Cuba: Socialism and Revolution

Taffe is associated with the Trotskyist Committee for a Workers International

Peter Binns & Mike Gonzalez, Cuba, Castro and Socialism

first printed in International Socialism Journal 2:8 (Spring 1980), pp.1-36. International Socialism Journal is a quarterly journal of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP-Britain).

Robin Blackburn, "Class Forces in the Cuban Revolution" (1980)

Raúl Rivero "Cuba's bleak political landscape"

Cuba in Transition Proceedings of the Annual Meetings of the Association for the Study of the Cuban Economy (ASCE)

ASCE is a professional non-political and non-partisan association whose objective is the study of the Cuban economy and society. Of special interest to the current Executive Committee of ASCE is the study of economic and business development issues, legal reform, sociological, political and environmental problems associated with the transition of Cuba to a free-market democracy

Cuban Committee for Human Rights

XXI Siglo Comité Cubano Pro Derechos Humanos

The Cuban Committee for Democracy, Inc. (CCD) is a non-profit organization of Cuban Americans and individuals of other nationalities from all walks of life, including professionals, laborers, academics and entrepreneurs, who seek a peaceful, negotiated transition to democracy in Cuba. The CCD, founded in 1993, represents the more moderate sector of the Cuban American community, whose voice is not otherwise represented by other existing organizations. CCD is not a political party. Rather, it seeks to fill a void and to address the misperception that the Cuban American community is monolithic and uniformly conservative.

Political Resources on the Net: Cuba

Cuba Project of the Center for International Policy

"End of Independent Labor (1959)

David Gonzalez, "In Castro's Changing World, Clashing Voices " New York TimesMay 20, 2001

Alex Anton "The Rise of the Cuban Human Rights Movement"

Gary Tennant, "Dissident Cuban Communism: The Case of Trotskyism 1932-1965"

Georgetown University's Caribbean Project Cuba Program

Cuba Links, Georgetown University Caribbean Project

Cuba Nuestra Human rights and opposition documents (in English).

Cuba Source

an annotated directory of the most informative and useful information on Cuba available for free on the web encompassing economic, political and social themes.

Books

Alejandro de la Fuente A Nation for All: Race, Inequality, and Politics in Twentieth-Century Cuba (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press,2001)

Maurice Halperin, Return to Havana: The Decline of Cuban Society Under Castro (Nashville: Vanderbilt University Press, 1994 )

Read an excerpt from the book

Ramon L. Bonachea and Marta San Martin, The Cuban Insurrection, 1952-1959 (New Brunswick, New Jersey: Transaction Bools, 1973);

K. S. Karol, Guerrillas in Power: The Course of the Cuban Revolution (New York: Hill & Wang, 1970);

Andres Suarez, Cuba: Castroism and Communism, 1959-1966 (Cambridge, Massachusetts: M.I.T. Press, 1967);

Juan M. del Aguila, Cuba, Dilemmas of a Revolution (Boulder, Colorado: Westview Press, 1984);

Lowry Nelson, Cuba: The Measure of a Revolution (Minneapolis, Minnesota: University of Minnesota Press, 1972);

Theodore Draper, Castroism: Theory and Practice. (New York: Praeger, 1965);

James O?Conner, The Origins of Cuban Socialism (Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Press, 1970);

Edward Gonzalez, Cuba Under Castro: The Limits of Charisma (New York: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1974).

Samuel Farber Revolution and Reaction in Cuba 1933-1960 (Wesleyan University Press, 1976)

Peter G. Bourne, Fidel A Biography of Fidel Castro (New York: Dodd, Mead & Company, 1986),

Tad Szulc, Fidel: A Critical Portrait (New York, Morrow, 1986),

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Michael Pugliese

5/8/02 8:40:09 AM, DavidMcR at aol.com wrote:


>In a message dated 5/8/02 11:03:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LeoCasey at aol.com
>writes:
>
><<
> Before addressing the specific points made back and forth between Jason,
> Duane, Jim and Bogdan, a word needs to be said about how their comments
> on these issues contrast with those of David McReynolds and Hunterbear.
> Jason, Duane, Jim and Bogdan are engaged in political discourse, and
> they are making substantive points which -- whether you agree or
> disagree with them --you can discuss and debate. In what I have come to
> understand to be their modus operandi, David McR and Hunterbear refuse
> to engage the substance of the argument: they have absolutely nothing to
> say, for example, about what the essentials of political democracy are,
> and whether or not Castro's Cuba possesses any of them. What they
> present as an alternative is a version of name calling -- you disagree
> with them on this issue, and you are a red-baiter, a fossil and a host
> of other dismissive terms.
> >>
>
>I don't expect Leo Casey to forgive me, but I do ask the list to understand
>that when his post, in responding to others, expends extraordinary energy
>first on Hunter and myself (and we have never met - nor, for that matter,
>have I met Leo Casey) before even beginning to discuss the other points, and
>when he does this, again, using the term "Stalinist", I know we inhabit
>alternate universes. In mine, Stalin and Trotsky both died long ago.
>
>When a vacation in Havana, in which I could walk freely through the streets
>alone and at day or night, is termed a "Potemkin Village" experience I think
>Leo Casey is so out of touch with reality that a political discussion is
>impossible. I've tried in the past, seriously and at some length, to respond
>to Leo Casey's posts. If I choose not to now, it isn't because I'm not able
>to, but because Leo Casey swiftly makes the exchanges personal, as he has
>done this steadily from the beginning. If he is going to have an arguement on
>such terms, in which the word "Stalinist" is thrown about and he feels this
>is "political discussion", then he will have the arguement with himself.
>
>Cuba has very serious problems it needs to face on how to handle the
>transition from the revolutionary tradition of Fidel to a more democratic
>form of government (note that our own country, following the Revolution, did
>not easily or without struggle, move to our present forms of democracy,
>however limited they may be). But Leo Casey is simply not someone with whom I
>chose to have that discussion.
>
>Fraternally,
>David McReynolds
>
>People's attention is scarce. Do not abuse it.
>
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