Towards a More Sex-Positive -- And More Relevant -- Left

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Fri Oct 18 20:45:34 PDT 2002


At 6:26 PM -0700 10/18/02, Thomas Seay wrote:
>>I don't see male US leftists "scared shitless of women." To take
>>just one example, women are a tiny minority among regular posters
>>to LBO-talk
>
>Perhaps you didn't understand. I am not arguing that
>women are not under-represented on list-serves such as
>this, or in most institutions. Of course, you are
>right about that. I am talking about sexual dynamics,
>when I say that I find that many male US leftists are
>"scared shitless of women".

I'd venture to say that sexual dynamics is related to underrepresentation of women. Men (whatever their political persuasions) tend to have problems with women who assert political and intellectual powers as most left-wing women do, especially the ones who don't give a damn about whether or not they are sexually attractive to men.

At 6:26 PM -0700 10/18/02, Thomas Seay wrote:
>>On the whole, men (in or out of left-wing institutions) still speak
>>louder than they ought.
>
>What do they do if they want to get laid? Would sign language be
>permissible? Or should they just wait until the woman makes the
>first move? :) I say that in jest, but I believe that is really a
>big question for the timid SNAG leftist.

Men should patiently wait until they are chosen, while working hard to ornament themselves physically and intellectually to please women: "The females are most excited by, or prefer pairing with, the more ornamented males, or those which are the best songsters, or play the best antics....[T]he more vigorous females, which are the first to breed, will have the choice of many males" (Charles Darwin, _The Descent of Man_, <http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e36_descent/descent_chap8.htm>).
:->

At 6:09 PM -0700 10/18/02, Thomas Seay wrote:
>>If you mean "maoists" and "stalinists" in the West, they are aging
>>minorities among leftists.
>
>Yes, I admit that. As I said, my statement about maoists and
>stalinists was aimed at Carrol.

Carrol undoubtedly knows more ribald and licentious verses than all of us put together here. Don't underestimate a Professor of English. ;-> -- Yoshie

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