Yup, the billions of pieces of SIGINT and HUMINT where the dots were not connected by a Reichstag fire conspiracy of Dubya et. al.
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-July/003801.html
All this stuff is getting more than ridiculous, when there are documentaries out there, that mix legit researchers like Peter Dale Scott w/ Alex Jones, a loon from Austin, TX. that alleges the Bohemian Grove ruling class toga networking parties are really a cover for Satanist ritualistic child sacrifice.
One webpg. recommended to me by a loony Kucinich supporter on 9-11 had sources even more dubious than The American Free Press and Jared Israel.Which I traced back to a website that this "Dennis The Menace" supporter had had fed to him by a cadre of the neo-Nazi, National Alliance in W. Va. which has a front group, "No War For Israel."
The sources for all these 9-11 websites mix in tons of material from neo-fascists (like the Col. de Pre crap that was fwded. here once) with their own sick agendas that I wish, John, a good marxist, would on methodological and political grounds, be alot more cautious.Start as Harry, "Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace: A Critical Examination of the Foreign Policy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and its Aftermath, " Elmer Barnes, and end up in the infested swamp of Willis Cartolandia, if you aren't careful. http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0377.html Michael Pugliese
[R-G] Re: GUILTY FOR 9-11: BUSH, RUMSFELD, MYERS by Jared Israel and Illarion Bykov
Hi, You are completely missing the point. "Combat Ready" is a term used by the U.S. military to describe a unit with a sufficient number of properly trained troops; and a full inventory of equipment and ordanance that is functional and with the proper maintenance, so as to be able to be deployed into combat. It DOES NOT mean the people in the unit are sitting around on their butts on benches ready to leap into tanks and jets in ten minutes. Many "combat ready" units are Reserve units or National Guard units and most of the people in those units hold full-time jobs outside of their military commitment. Some "combat ready" units are part of the full-time military and live on or near their bases, but even in these units some people are on leave or off duty. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE AUTOMATICALLY ON DUTY FOR ANYTHING UNLESS THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC TASK. We can agree that it would have been a good idea to have several jet pilots and several jet planes assigned to alert duty and on call for a scramble (5-10 minutes to be airborne) at Andrews field. There were not. It is certainly appropriate to ask why not. Nontheless, the duty assigments on 9/11 for scramble alert jet aircraft on the east coast were Langley in coastal Virginia to cover Washington, D.C. and Otis on the coast on the Cape in
Massachusetts to cover New York City (and Boston). How do I know this? Because the pilots have given interviews describing their duty assignment and how the were scrambled on 9/ 11. Were their other bases with scramble-ready jets? Quite probably there were. My argument is that the article claiming that there were actually jets ready to scramble and take off at Andrews (because some web page described some of the jet units stationed there as "combat ready") is flat out wrong and based on total ignorance of the meaning of the term "combat ready." There are plenty of DOD documents explaining the term "combat ready." And "combat ready 24/7" is just a slogan to keep units on their toes as a goal, because in actual
practice, when a "combat ready" unit is called up from the Reserves or National Guard, the DOD goal is 24-72 hours before embarcation. Even an active duty full time military unit can take many hours to get assembled for transport. There is NO EVIDENCE that has been produced so far that demonstrates that there were jets ready to scramble at Andrews. -Chip Berlet p.s. This means that the following article is wrong: = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = GUILTY FOR 9-11: BUSH, RUMSFELD, MYERS Introduction & Section 1 by Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel [Posted 14 November 2001] [Updated 17 November 2001] Dedicated to the firemen of New York. ======================================= INTRODUCTION TO SUMMARY OF EVIDENCE Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation just 10 miles from the Pentagon.