[lbo-talk] RE: computer associates

[cian]

Granted CA seem to be the worst (does any of their software work?), but
almost all the large consultancy companies produce rubbish software and are
horrible to work for. I think IBM are probably okay, but that's about it.
EDS are not only producers of dreck, but try to turn their workers into some
kind of 50s clone. Rumour has it (which I think I got someone to confirm at
some point) that for a while they had an approved set of haircuts for
employees. The odd thing was that when they bought companies, they left the
conditions as they were for existing employees, but enforced EDS conditions
on new hires. So you might find people working in the same office - some
typically badly dressed programmers, the rest besuited and bequiffed. Wierd.
I assume that the computer company that Keanu Reeves works for in the Matrix
is either EDS, or CA.

Accenture is the company I don't understand. To my knowledge they have never
completed a project successfully. Every one I've seen the results of has
been a total failure. They bully the customer, they charge a fortune - often
for English grads fresh out of college. They should have a terrible
reputation, but they still get hired. In Britain they seem to have been
responsible for every governemnt IT project ever - every one of which has
failed horribly. And yet they still get hired. It can't just be corruption.
Institutional stupidity? The power of a good suit?

Advancement at Accenture is through management. As soon as you get promoted,
you stop programming, and manage other programmers. End result is that the
people who do the work are fresh hires, with virtually no experience. Odd,
but probably means that outsourcing is ideally suited to their methods.

-----Original Message-----
From: lbo-talk-admin at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-admin at lbo-talk.org]On
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:37 AM
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Subject: [lbo-talk] RE: computer associates

"NEW YORK: Computer Associates International Inc plans to hire several
hundred workers in India and China in the next year, its top executive told
employees on Friday."

FYI: Computer Associates is the most hated employer in hi tech. They are to
programmers as industrialized poultry factories are to chickens. Too
horrible to contemplate.

Joanna

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