> Of course, and we can only do that by action on the terrain of some
> particular state. In fact, that education and that creation can only
> occur within the context of struggle against state power. And it seems
> to me at least that any argument that does not start off here is apt to
> be not so much wrong as incoherent.
>
> Carrol
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Ok, but a struggle against state power is not the same as taking over state power, as any libertarian could tell you.
Ian