[lbo-talk] Re: Black music makes history

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Well, I know and respect all these people, and listen
to most of them whem whenever I can, and I note you
have left off a lot of people whom I'd include as
wonderful contemporary musicians, such as David Murray
and James  Carter and Joe Lovano and Charles Gayle
(just a few, but of course you couldn't list
everyone). But I don't believe that most jazz people
would put any of these people in the same league with
Coltrane or Parker or Ellington or Armstrong. I
actually don't believe that you do. If you do, well,
you and I disagree about whether there is a falling
off (or an efflorescence) that needs explanation.

jks

--- dave dorkin <ddorkin1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am a jazz musician and a lot of people disagree
> with
> you including myself and just about every musician I
> know.
> 
> We look to people like Allan Holdsworth, Keith
> Jarrett, Wayne Krantz, Dave Liebman, Richie Beirach,
> Louis Winsberg, Chick Corea, Wayne Shorter, Mike
> Brecker, John McLaughlin, Scott Henderson, Ralph
> Towner, Pat Metheny and many others. They are not as
> much a part of big media and jazz was and that is
> the
> main difference. 
> 
> --- andie nachgeborenen 
> > Jazz: there is a lot of good stuff done at a very
> > high level of technical competence, but the last
> creative giant in jazz was John Coltrane, and he has
> been dead> for 35 years. And let me tell you that
> among people who are as into jazz as I am, someone
> working at that level would be known _instantly._ 
> 
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