[lbo-talk] LBO-Talk = Outliers (What Do The IraqiResistanceDebates And The Mars Rovers Debates Have In Common?)

Grant Lee grantlee at iinet.net.au
Mon Feb 16 07:14:16 PST 2004


What do you mean "liberals"?!! Now _that's_ a fighting word *lol*

Grant.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Perrin" <dperrin at comcast.net> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] LBO-Talk = Outliers (What Do The IraqiResistanceDebates And The Mars Rovers Debates Have In Common?)


> > BTW the most I've ever said about my race is that I'm not Chinese/Asian.
> So
> > I don't know what you're basing this on. As it happens I am a white
> > Australian. I have no idea why this is significant to "polling on this
> topic
> > in the USA", a country I've never been to. And if most people of colour
in
> > the US supported the Iraqi resistance, which seems unlikely, what would
it
> > prove? Would it represent a huge contribution to breaking down racism in
> the
> > USA, or a better Iraq?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Grant.
>
> Just as I suspected: yet another white man commenting on the fate of Iraqi
> People of Color(tm). Team B, of which I and the heroic Carrol Cox are a
> part, is clearly politically more advanced than the all-white Team A, your
> crowd.
>
> *****Team B Outpaces Team A on LBO List
> by Carrie Sampson
> New York
> February 16, 2004
>
> In a stunning display of political maturity and revolutionary solidarity
> with Oppressed Masses all over the planet, Team B of the LBO Talk List,
> moderated by the white economics author Doug Henwood, has shown the way
for
> other Teams of Color on other lists, putting to shame Team A, an all-white
> contingent of liberals who feel free to opine on the political fortunes of
> the Iraqi Resistance.
>
> "It's typical colonial posturing," says Yoshie Furuhashi, a leader of Team
> B. "Thankfully, there are those of us committed to resist such paternal
> attitudes, and hopefully show the correct path to commenting on other
> countries that few of us have ever visited, and whose languages we do not
> speak."
>
> Carrol Cox, another Team B leader, concurred. "There is no 'left' at LBO.
> There are plenty of armchair neo-imperialists, however, who refuse to
listen
> or heed the words of dispassionate, experienced political actors such as
> myself. It is quite frustrating, but thankfully there are courageous
> revolutionaries like Yoshie to remind us of what truly matters -- race and
> sex as defined by those who are more radical than reality itself."
>
> LBO moderator Doug Henwood confessed, "Well, frankly I'm ashamed of
myself.
> When you go up against a force like Yoshie you risk looking foolish and
> reactionary, and I'm afraid this is yet another case of that." Henwood
> added, "I try to stifle Yoshie, limiting her to three posts a day. But her
> radical determination cannot be stemmed, and the truth cannot be fully
> expressed in less than six posts. Again, I apologize to progressive forces
> everywhere."
>
> <radicaltimes at betterworld.net/lbotalk/sampson>
>
> Yo-she
>
> *Victory To Whoever Takes Charge In Iraq, So Long As They're Not Allied
With
> The US <anybodywilldo at iraqrev.com>
> *Graduate Students Of Color Say "NO!" To Undergraduates Of No Color
> <superiorpigment at raceisall.net>
> *Campus Leninists Who Identify With Blowing Up Busses in Crowded Shopping
> Areas <booom at noinnocents.org>



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