[lbo-talk] LBO-Talk = Outliers (What Do The Iraqi Resistance Debates And The Mars Rovers Debates Have In Common?)

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Mon Feb 16 09:45:50 PST 2004


Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


>(A) Among the subscribers of LBO-talk who posted on the subject of
>resistance fighters in Iraq, those who must have prompted Dwayne
>Monroe to conclude that "Others (most, it seems) have decided that
>all violent resisters are Ba'athist or Jihadist criminals; I believe
>Rumsfeld used the term 'dead enders'; many on the left apparently
>agree" are Seth Ackerman, Doug Henwood, John Lacny, Mike Larkin,
>Grant Lee, and Luke Weiger.
>
>(B) Those who offered different portrayals of resistance fighters
>are Charles Brown, Carrol Cox, James Heartfield, Hari Kumar, Shane
>Mage, Stephen Philion, and myself (I note that there are three
>persons of color in [B], whereas [A] are all white -- race may be a
>statistically significant variable if we poll on this topic in the
>USA).

I'll bracket the quaint early-90s aspects of this argument - that only [insert demographic group here] is fit to talk about matters concerning [that same demographic group], and that the world is divided into white people and people of color (which mirrors the white racist's view of the world as being divided into white and nonwhite, with the nonwhites/PoCs sharing deep and mysterious affinities with each other, be they Japanese or Tanzanian). What interests me at the moment, given recent discussions, is how selective these demographic attentions are. For example, black Americans have been voting heavily for John Kerry in the Dem primaries, and are almost certain to vote in large numbers for whoever the Dem nominee is this fall. Those primary votes have been cast despite the presence of some seriously left-of-center candidates (Kucinich, Sharpton, and Braun, the last two of whom are black, and who should presumably benefit from that mysterious affinity). As Donna Brazile said the other day, she's been telling Sharpton that the main concern of the black electorate is getting rid of Bush, and all the evidence supports her analysis. As I've asked Cde Cox many times, in response to his frequent declarations that white leftists should yield to black leadership, why do you reject this position?

Doug



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