[lbo-talk] Camp Bucca and beyond

[mumbo jumbo]

You must be joking: the photos were made by the same torturers because they were absolutely
convinced to have the support of the whole gerarchy, up to the top (and they were absolutely
right in this belief my view). And how about the treatment of prisoners in Guantanamo,
Afghanistan and beyond? Do U think that because we lack photos they are treated well? And how
about the US prison industry? Maybe U need some photos also about what happens there.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Weiger" <lweiger at umich.edu>
To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Camp Bucca and beyond


> Miles wrote:
>
> > I don't think this is a fair description of all these people who are
> > excusing the mayhem and torture in Iraq.  It's not that they are
> > incapable of self-reflection and base their ideas on misconceptions.
> > Rather, like Jon mentioned, they are trying to resolve cognitive
> > dissonance: "The U.S. is a beacon of freedom and democracy" idea
> > is inconsistent with the torture reports,
>
> Well, the torturing itself might be inconsistent with the idea (I'd say it
> reflects very poorly on the scruples of the intelligence community and the
> sadism of many individual soldiers), however, the "torture reports" are
> entirely consistent: if the US wasn't both somewhat free and democratic, we
> probably wouldn't know about the torture.
>
> -- Luke
>
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