[lbo-talk] No Stolen Elections!

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Sat Nov 6 15:26:39 PST 2004


Yeah, I mean this would have to be the first step, wouldn't it:

**Automatic universal registration. Challenges to be made no later than six months before an election. Otherwise, if you have ID and are over 18, you can vote.

**Auditable voting.

**EVERYBODY who wants to vote gets to vote. Polls don't close until everybody votes.

AND, if you need a "fringe" issue

**Proportional representation.

These are all basic democratic demands.

Joanna

JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote:


>Charles writes:
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>>CB: Are there any studies of what percentage of people think investigation
>>of whether a US election could be stolen is nuttery ? I believe I read
>>that half of NYCers have some level of openness to odd theories about 9/11.
>>If so, wouldn't seem hard for them to be open to the possibility that , for
>>example, computer programs could do hitec ballot box stuffing, or African
>>Americans could be cheated out of voting in higher percentages through
>>trick and device than other groups. In Michigan , a Republican leader openly
>>announced the need and intent to suppress the vote in Detroit, which means
>>Black votes in the Michigan political venacular.
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>>In general, it would be great if campaign experiences with fraud and
>>otherwise with voters were chronicled for a peoples journal/history of
>>2004.
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>I think there's a danger in calling it history too soon. The dominant media
>and the Democratic Party have given in to -- blessed, really -- a whole new
>level of fraud, suppression, and manipulation. 2000 was pretty bad, but you
>could argue it was an anomaly and that such things as fraudulent voter purge
>lists wouldn't be used again once they were exposed. In 2004, this kind of thing
>is apparently regarded as pretty much S.O.P., and to watch the news, the birds
>are chirping, the children are playing and there's nothing much to talk
>about. So, when 2006 comes around, the Repubs. can take it to a new level, and
>everyone will worry about sounding like fringey nuts then, too. So we need to
>raise a fuss now--otherwise the history books, even those we write, will not
>record it as more than ho-hum, more of the same, you know how Republicans are.
>For example, around the county they're going full speed ahead on introducing
>more no-paper-trail, no-audit, proprietary software DRE machines. Jacksonville
>has a contract for them by 2006--currently they're using Optical scan
>(marksense) machines which at least have a paper ballot.
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>Jenny Brown
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