[lbo-talk] more on Fallujah

Luke Weiger lweiger at umich.edu
Mon Nov 22 14:55:34 PST 2004


I don't think it's particularly hard to imagine circumstances in which a relatively benevolent occupying power would have to deal with the problem of insurgency. Suppose that the Germans had internalized Nazi norms to such a degree that they were willing to fight for fascism even after the state had collapsed.

-- Luke

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dawson" <MDawson at pdx.edu> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] more on Fallujah


> Jesus Christ, Luke. It's against the law to invade another country,
unless
> it invades you first. Good Socialist State X would never start a war.
> Pretty simple.
>
> What are you even thinking of? What "insurgency" has ever existed that
> "needed to be defeated" via war? Let's hear your list.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org
[mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org]
> > On Behalf Of Luke Weiger
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:23 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] more on Fallujah
> >
> > Let's suppose your the leader of Good Socialist State X and determine
that
> > an insurgency in some country (let's assume it's like Iraq in most every
> > particular) needs to be defeated. What measures would you employ?
War's
> > awful. It's inexcusable when pointless, which appears to be the case in
> > Iraq. That's the real problem.
> >
> > -- Luke
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com>
> > To: "lbo-talk" <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:48 PM
> > Subject: [lbo-talk] more on Fallujah
> >
> >
> > > A friend just sent a report from a friend who's just been in
> > > Fallujah. Horrible stuff. Aside from the usual killing, the Marines
> > > made a point of wrecking every house they searched, blowing holes in
> > > every bare wall they could find, and leaving bloody footprints on the
> > > floor of a mosque (where shoes aren't allowed) and shitting there.
> > > It's not enough to kill people in great quantities, they want to
> > > humiliate the survivors too.
> > >
> > > Doug
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