Justin: Charles opposes what liberals think of as democracy because he wants the dictatorship of the proletariat, embodied in the Leninist Party. We've been there, wasn't so good. So, democracy is what we have got. It's inconsistent?
Charles: No, Charles opposes the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, which is a more accurate name for liberal practice in history. We've been there and that was worse, less democratic, than the practice of Leninists. Justin continues to ignore what liberals have actually done in power for the last 300 years.