[lbo-talk]Peak oil and Why can't you guys learn to quote and attribute properly?

jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net
Wed Apr 13 21:20:36 PDT 2005


On 13 Apr 2005 at 19:18, Michael Pugliese wrote or quoted:


> Google's Gmail autokeywordlinkarama 'sez>...RICHARD HEINBERG, THE
> PARTY'S OVER: OIL, WAR, AND THE FATE OF ...
> >From the Wilderness - 2 hours ago
> [The math is not complicated here....
>
> Last yr, at a S.F. conference of the 9-11 conspiranoids where Mike
> Ruppert of FTW spoke and Heinberg of the New School in S.F., accts. I
> read by critics of Ruppert in the "9-11 Truth, " community, resented
> the Peak Oil prognostications as a diversion...from speculation on
> Maqrvin Bush' security firm placing explosives in the WTC a few days
> before 9-11.
> Like alot of other issues, my impression is that "activists" who
> pick up the Heinberg and recent Ruppert works, from their
> lecture/conference circuit appearances, and start spouting off on Oil
> Economics, have never even, and never intend to, do some research in
> the trade journals or books, read by execs at The Seven Sisters (the
> title of one of the only two books I've read on Oil, an old classic by
> the late Anthony Sampson. The other was Monthly Review Press title
> from the mid- 70's, "Middle East Oil and the Energy Crisis, " by Joe
> Stork.) that debate Peak Oil. An annoying as the old hippie Red Diaper
> sons and daughters of Old Left cadre I know that harangue me with
> Ehrlich's Population Bomb from the 70's...forget trying to introduce
> sources like these below to folks that read only ONE source...
> http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/gimenez/courses/5085syl.html
> Karen L. Michaelson, And The Poor Get Children. Radical Perspectives
> on Population Dynamics. Monthly Review Press, 1981.
> Ronald L. Meek, ed., Marx and Engels on the Population Bomb. The
> Ramparts Press, 1971.

I don't understand the connection you are attempting to make between peak oil and this quote or the link to Professors Gimenez's Sociology course description. Want to explain what point you're driving towards because you lost me? Are you speculating that because FTW is full of nuts and peak oil is discussed on that site (an assumption I make because of the wording of the quote above) that any discussion of peak oil is nuts? That the only people who discuss peak oil read and rely on Ruppert the wacko for support? I've never really read anything beyond a few paragraphs by the man and don't intend to start now. Some people find it amusing and some find it believable but I just find it annoying.

John Thornton



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