Let's be clear. I have no sympathy either for the Zionists who want to establish a Greater Israel (or a lesser Judea) or those Islamists who want a return to the Caliphate of the 7th century. Even the language of "homelands" grates on me. Yet both these dominant obscurantist faiths--Zionism and political Islam--are expressions of the failures of socialist internationalism and working-class hopes, and we live with the dreary consequences. The consequences don't get any less grim by pretending, as Yoshie does, that a binational secular state is feasible in the short run. Calling for one is a fashion statement--and not au courant, either.
On 12/6/05, Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Bryan:
> > > Actually, on Saturday, during the Alternative Information Center
> > > (AIC)seminar in Bethlehem this last weekend, Shir Hever, our
> > resident
> > > (and in my opinion brilliant) economist made what I thought was an
> > > excellent lecture that dealt with the issue which Yoshie brings
> > up here.
> >
> > Not that it matters, but I do not think Yoshie is an advocate of
> > the "one state" solution. As far as I can tell, she favors an
> > independent Palestinian state, which is exactly the opposite that
> > Hever is arguing here. AFAIK, the supporters of the one state
> > solution based on economic reasons on this list are Joanna and myself.
> >
> > Wojtek
>
> As a goal, one state in which Jews and Palestinians live in equality
> is ideal (and I've said that many times here prior to the current
> thread on the subject), especially since there are objective economic
> reasons why one state will make more sense than two arbitrary states,
> as Shir Hever explains; and people can and ought to advocate for it.
> I'm saying, in addition, that, in the near future, what we'll have is
> neither one state of equality nor two states (one Jewish, the other
> Palestinian); in the near future, there will be only one state in
> historic Palestine, it being Israel, and Palestinians in Gaza, the
> West Bank, and refugee camps abroad remaining essentially stateless.
> How long will that statelessness continue?
>
> Yoshie Furuhashi
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>
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