[lbo-talk] SPIEGEL on Dresden

[T Fast]

c'mon Caroll, in hindsight it is true Stalin was an animal and anyone under 
his foot would have been glad for the western hostility yet at the same time 
many a Russian and I dare say western socialists were right for supporting 
the soviet union.  Only those with a science of the future can make such 
proclamations.  Do you now = god.  I think not and suspect neither do you. 
Try reading Darkness at Noon (1946) and then read Humanism and Terror (1947 
the response).

Travis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] SPIEGEL on Dresden


>
>
> Leigh Meyers wrote
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Wojtek Sokolowski
>>
>> <...>
>> Is there a rational position on this issue other than the trite anti-war
>> slogans?
>
> The anti-war slogans are trite only in the same sense as is e=mc*2. And
> what is totally irrational is calling anti-war slogans trite. It is
> calling them trite, not in using them, that banality lies. If you jump
> in the water you will get wet. Trite? Perhaps. Also true. Of course it
> is beneath W., apparently, to specify _which_ anti-war slogans he
> considers trite. Why should superior beings like him bother to explain
> themselves.
>
> The real puzzle is why anyone should think there is any difficulty at
> all in arriving at a judgment of Dresden.
>
> Carrol
>
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