----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Wanzala To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] Does Al Qaeda Exist?/(who is the hoaxer?)
"Michael Dawson" <MDawson at pdx.edu> wrote:
"I never said Al Qaeda was big and sophisticated organization. For that matter, neither has the Bush Administration. You hoaxers are simply making that up, based on the story about the cave complex." __________________________________
What Rumsfeld describes below looks to me like a big and sophisticated organization - what do you think? Do you still stand by your hoax-like statement above?:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n09242001_200109243.html
"Rumsfeld said he is not convinced that the Al Qaeda network acted alone. "There is no way in the world that a network can function as effectively over such a long period of time, with such excellent finances, and false passports, and all of the intelligence information they had to have, without them being fostered and facilitated and assisted and financed by states, and by businesses, and by nongovernmental organizations, and by corporations," he said. "It is a large network."
Rumsfeld said the U.S. military is positioning forces around the world. "This is not an Afghan problem," he said. "This is a worldwide problem of terrorist networks. And let there be no doubt about it, the Al Qaeda network is in at least 60 countries, and they are just one of many networks."
- Joe W.
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I think it sounds like Rummy believes AQ has a major backer (government).
I think it's us. (The U.S.)
In a nutshell, I think UBL is doing a better job of providing work for the average American than the current administration. I'd vote AQ, all the way!
Baggage Screening alone must be employing 10... 100 times more "average Americans" than it did 10 years ago. And that's not even getting into the "Mother of all job markets to come", the police/prison/law enforcement complex. Homeland Insecurity...
Osama couldn't be doing a better job of driving our economy even if he wasn't *still* working for the CIA/Military. The perfect excuse to run amuck all over that area of the world and stir up the shit so we can skim the profits of the top (the corruption rises to the top.). Of course it's a short term/mid term strategy, with a *lot* of long term risk, but that's OK because it's the End Times anyway!
Now if only Saddam had cooperated with us... NOT nationalized the oilfields, militarily softened up Iran for US oil interests...
We coulda been a contender...
Instead America is the "shlemazel" to UBL's "Shlemiel", and there isn't a WMD in sight.
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