--- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, what does "Western liberalism" mean? Some kind
> of mimicry of Western European/US systems of
> government? Russia's not a nation-state and it's not
> a
> settler-colony (with the indigenous population
> exterminated, like in the US or Australia). So no in
> that sense, that just won't work. If by "Western
> liberalism" one means being tolerant and allowing
> the
> desire of the people to influence things, sure. I
> find
> it funny when people talk about a "rollback of
> democracy in Russia" when in fact the Putin gov is
> far
> more responsive to the people's needs that the
> Yeltsin
> gov was. If you have media outlets controlled by the
> mafia, that's democracy!
>
>
> --- Peter Lavelle <untimely_thoughts at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chris, I think you broach an accidental
> breakthrough
> > of sorts:
> >
> > "Solzhenitsyn is a Russian nationalist and a
> > Slavophile (in addition to being a great man
> > although
> > I
> > disagree with him 75% of the time). I doubt he
> > thinks
> > of himself as a "Western thinker.""
> >
> > Ditto, ditto and ditto.
> >
> > However, is it possible that there a different
> > paradigm
> > in play? Instead of accepting the Western
> experience
> > lock-stock-and barrel, shouldn't we be hoping and
> > expecting for (finally) a contemporary Russian
> > version
> > of Western liberalism? Clearly Solzhenitsyn is a
> > strange midwife for this (ref to Joanna's recent
> > post), but....
> >
> > I think, and call me crazy on this list, this is
> > what
> > Putin and Putinism is all about.
> >
> >
> > --- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Solzhenitsyn is a Russian nationalist and a
> > > Slavophile
> > > (in addition to being a great man although I
> > > disagree
> > > with him 75% of the time). I doubt he thinks of
> > > himself as a "Western thinker."
> > >
> > > Nu, zayats, pogodi!
> > >
> > >
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