It's not about pipelines.
--- Mycos <mycos at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Doug Henwood wrote:
> > Mycos wrote:
> >
> >> Now here's something you can be sure has the
> neocon's full attention.
> >> Many, including myself, feel that a great deal of
> US behaviour in the
> >> Middle East, particularly Afghanistan and Iraq,
> can be traced back to
> >> the Unocal pipeline that is being proposed to run
> through those very
> >> areas.
> >
> >
> > Oh really? Can you think of any sane
> businessperson that would invest
> > billions in a pipeline across Afghanistan, one of
> the least stable
> > places in the world (and with little hope for that
> changing in the
> > forseeable future), when other alternatives are
> available? And if this
> > really were the US motive, wouldn't they be doing
> a bit more to
> > stabilize the country than sending the occasional
> patrol around to hunt
> > for random Taliban?
> >
> > Doug
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> The pipeline isn't a fantasy of my own making*, so
> apparently there
> has to be *some* businessmen who see the project as
> worth pursuing,
> or pursuing once American friendly governments have
> been installed.
>
> And you say "wouldn't they be doing a bit more?"
>
> How much more do you want? The military has
> invaded Afghanistan,
> installed a puppet government, and continues to
> "secure" US
> Middle-eastern interests through the invasion of
> Iraq, tough talk on
> Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. etc.
>
>
>
> * (*Editors Note | Since September 11th, 2001, there
> has been
> intense speculation regarding Bush administration
> negotiations with
> the Taliban regarding this very project prior to the
> attacks.
> American petroleum giant Unocal very much wanted
> this project for
> years, but it was stymied in 1998 after bin Laden
> blew up two
> American embassies in Africa, causing the Taliban to
> be
> diplomatically isolated. There are a number of
> reports that describe
> a reinvigoration of this pipeline plan after Bush
> took office, and
> further describe the Bush administration's
> negotiations with the
> Taliban including threats of war if the project was
> not allowed to
> pass through Afghanistan. Some say these threats, in
> the name of the
> pipeline, triggered the 9/11 attacks. The Taliban is
> gone, Afghan
> President Harmid Karzai is a former Unocal
> consultant, and the
> pipeline deal is finally done. - wrp)
>
>
>
> Agreement On US 3.2 Billion Gas Pipeline Project
> Signed
> PakNews.com
>
> December 28, 2002
>
> Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkmenistan on Friday
> signed here a
> framework agreement for a US $ 3.2 billion gas
> pipeline project
> passing through the three countries.
>
> The ceremony was held at the Presidential Palace
> with the three
> leaders, Prime Minister Mir Zafarullah Khan Jamali,
> President
> Saparmurat Niyazov of Turkmenistan and Afghan
> President Hamid Karzai
> signing the document.
>
> The framework agreement defines legal mechanism for
> setting up a
> consortium to build and operate the pipeline.
>
> According to a study by Asian Development Bank
> (ADB), the 1460 km
> pipeline would use gas reserves at Dauletabad fields
> in
> Turkmenistan, which has world's fifth largest
> reserves, while
> passing through Afghanistan into Pakistan.
> "Thursday, December 4, 1997 Published at 19:27 GMT
>
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/12.30A.afgh.pipe.htm
> "
>
> Or
>
http://www.google.ca/search?biw=1014&hl=en&q=UNocal%2C+Oil+pipeline+%27afghanistan&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
> --
>
> Gary Williams
>
> "Over himself, over his own body and mind, the
> individual is sovereign."
> - John Stuart Mill
>
> http://mycos.blogspot.com/
>
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