[lbo-talk] We can lose, or we can just lose later

[boddi satva]

Yes, many Nazi soldiers were draftees and we prosecuted realtively few
people of lower rank (compared to their overall numbers). There were
even Nazi draftees and officers who rejected their orders at times as
illegal. I don't think the fact that there were Nazi draftees does
anything but strengthen my point. Voluntary participation in war for
one's society has been expected from citizens at least since the days
of Greece and Rome.

On 11/24/05, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Actually the great majority of Nazi soldiers were
> young, terrified draftees. My grandfather was one of
> them. Called up in 43 when he was 17, probably still
> in the Hitler Youth, sent to Italy to work in
> artillery, captured by the Brits, spent years in POW
> camps, went back to Germany completely psychologically
> traumatized. Never talked about the war unless he got
> drunk, at which point he started to get violent.
>
>
> --- boddi satva <lbo.boddi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's just appalling to compare American soldiers -
> > often kids from
> > underprivileged circumstances and National Guardsmen
> > who mainly serve
> > to do terrible things like save people from floods -
> > to Nazi soldiers
> > who followed what here would be illegal orders to
> > exterminate
> > civilians. You do remember that our troops agree to
> > follow the LEGAL
> > orders of an ELECTED government, no? That's not just
> > a little
> > different from committing murder on the behalf of a
> > dictator?
> >
>
> Nu, zayats, pogodi!
>
>
>
>
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