> Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> > Travis Fast wrote:
> >
> >> The point is Yoshie, you can either take the approach that the
> >> average soldier is no more and no less responsible then the average
> >> AMerican for the war
> >
> >
> > Lots of average Americans voted against Bush. Most average soldiers
> > have followed, or would follow, orders to go to war. How far does
> > collective responsbility extend?
> >
> > Doug
> Are you now pulling a hitchens? But to answer you directly: to the max
> that is how far it goes. And if the left took this seriously they would
> would descend from the heavens and touch their own humanity and in so
> doing discover the humanity of those they wish to save. I say unto you
> brother repent and see the men and women before you.
>
> Travis
>
Thanks Travis,
My dad, a WWII vet put it quite eloquently the other day.
[Cue sarcasm] "The range of colors within the anatomy of a blown up human being is quite splendid. No one should be exposed to that unless there's absolutely no other option". [end cue]
He's done quite the turn around in the last year or so, doesn't blink when I use the word fascist to describe the current situation, whereas few here seems to think the term applies to the US government. So who's the "agent of change"?, a WWII vet who was a "company man" all his life... or us.
And why would anyone care to alienate him by assigning blame where blame is NOT due, on his comrades-in-arms as a whole? Oh, that's right... If it can't happen the way you want (control freaks!), then fuck it, it shouldn't happen at all... Murtha just shoulda kept his mouth shut too.
The general tenor of this thread is callous, arrogant, intellect-in-a-vacuum asshole-ish of people that can't discern between responsibility and blame.
-- Leigh www.leighm.net