Joe W.
>From: Michael Pugliese <michael.098762001 at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Facts in KPFA Dispute Hard to Grasp
>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:11:42 -0600
>
>On 10/7/05, Joseph Wanzala <jwanzala at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > By MARC SAPIR
> > And that the staff
>has to learn how to allow that community to have more influence, rather
>than
>resisting the process, if KPFA is to survive in a fascist environment.
>
> Fascist? The East Bay is about the least fascist environment there
>is next to Santa Cruz and Madison, WI.
>
>
>Marc Sapir is the executive director of Retro Poll.
>
> Sapir and his firm are as these threads went into is a unreliable
>biased source. His firm puts out a crappy product. Like those stupid
>surveys the DNC and RNC send outt in their direct mail, "Do you
>believe the Democrats/Republicans eat babies for breakfast?"
>http://search.lbo-talk.org/search/swish.cgi?query=Marc+Sapir&submit=Search%21&metaname=swishdefault&sort=unixdate
>
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2004/2004-May/010793.html
>[lbo-talk] Sapir
>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2004/2004-May/010806.html
> > [Marc Sapir, director of RetroPoll, sent this reaction to my
> > critiques of his latest. I'll let this float out into the universe
> > before responding.]
> > 90% of the public
> > doesn't know anything about all that, so we inform them. That's part of
> > our approach to reality. You don't like it, but we do.
>
>Hm, this is a pretty obnoxious tirade. Lots of petty personal insults, an
>endless stream of red herrings, thin-skinned quotes about academics who
>may or may not be using his website, and no attempt to deal with the
>issues. Polls are about what people are really thinking, as opposed to
>what anyone else would like them to think. If you start the whole
>education/training thing, you're doing agitprop -- a fine thing in itself,
>but not a genuine poll.
>
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