[lbo-talk] Finkestein hangs Marty P out to dry

joanna 123hop at comcast.net
Wed Oct 18 18:04:01 PDT 2006


How old are you?

Joanna

Angelus Novus wrote:


>Michael McIntyre wrote:
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>>So, Angelus and MPug, a couple of questions:
>>(1) Was Norman right or wrong about:
>>(a) Joan Peters?
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>Yes (he was right).
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>>(b) Daniel Goldhagen?
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>"right" or "wrong" seems a strange way of posing the
>question in this case. I do not know of Finkelstein
>successfully challenging Goldhagen's factual material,
>merely his thesis. And Finkelstein's counter-thesis,
>that there was no widespread anti-semitism in Germany,
>and that Jews themselves were responsible for whatever
>anti-semitism there was, is, as the natural scientists
>say, "not even wrong."
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>>(c) Alan Dershowitz?
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>I don't know. I would have to read what Finkelstein
>has to say about Dershowitz. I really do not want to
>spend what little money I have on material by
>Finkelstein, however.
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>>No more of this, "forget what he says, he
>>objectively serves an
>>objectionable function" crap.
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>The Chomsky worldview summed up neatly. Forget
>objective social structures, ideology, fetishized
>relationships, historical context, social interests.
>Just the facts please.
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>A left that reads Chomsky and Finkelstein rather than
>Marx or Lukacs deserves to lose, and lose badly.
>There are enough right-wing populists promoting
>foreshortened models of capitalism as merely the rule
>of sinister Jews, greedy corporations, and
>unscrupulous governments. If you go in for that sort
>of thing, at least become a Haider or Buchanan
>supporter and get it in undiluted form.
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>Rolf Surmann, an exemplary Antifascist researcher in
>Germany, and who once called Finkelstein "Germany's
>favorite Jew," has this to say about the role that
>Finkelstein plays in German discourse:
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>http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2001/05/finkelstein.htm
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