Obviously, as in the case of the aforementioned Buffalo Italian Thanksiving, fusion can be great. But so far as I can tell, the bad bagels around reflect no fusion, no ethnic contribution from outside of the original, just collapse.
Jesse
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Monaco" <monacojerry at gmail.com> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] bagels/ethnicity
> On 9/9/06, Jesse Lemisch <utopia1 at attglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > This leads me to some speculations and questions about bagels and
ethnicity.
> > Far from a Jewish nationalist myself, I do feel that what has become of
the
> > bagel is an offense against ethnicity, particularly here on the upper
West
> > Side, and similar offenses against other ethnicities would bring angry
> > responses.
>
>
> Oh that is just silly. think about what happened to the pizza, or to
> sushi... But who complains? Except for the fact that I can rarely get
> good pizza in the city where my great grandparents family first made
> it 75 years ago, I have no real complaints. In the late 80s and early
> 90s in Manhattan you could rarely even find an Italian owned pizza
> place, they were mostly owned by Albanians. With pizza they lacked
> imagination. I look forward to the time when Mexicans and Japanese
> own the pizza places here. Then maybe it will get interesting again.
>
> Jerry
>
> > H & H (Hispanic) are highly sugared; Absolute (Thai) -- along
> > with most other sources -- lacks the traditional hardness on the
surface
> > (during WWII there were jokes about Jewish bombardiers dropping bagels
on
> > the enemy). It may be that Jewish-made bagels have also deteriorated.
> >
> >
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