martin wrote in respsonse to ChuckO:
> You're not a good 'wise ass', but I think that you are a sincere person.
> Can you answer the simple question - where did the mug shots come from?
Which was followed by a non ranting answer.
Maybe I'll try this approach with my unanswered messages to Chuck:
Hey Chuck
You're not a good "wise ass" but I think you are a sincere person. Can you tell me:
Which of these two ideas you posted is the one you really hold?
On 22 Aug 2006 at 13:46, Chuck wrote:
> I think that this really boils down to racism. The 9/11 movement is
> mostly comprised of privileged, white liberals. They find it easy to
> deny the agency of the brown people who really organized the plot.
On 22 Aug 2006 at 17:51, Chuck also wrote:
> I want to make it clear that I don't think that the 9/11 conspiracy
> movement is racist or that their theories are fundamentally racist.
And while you're on a roll would you take a look at this too please?:
On 9 Sept 2006 at 21:14, Chuck wrote:
Oh brother, more identity politics. Let's distill all points of view
down to race and assume that all people of the same race hold the same
position.
I am making an argument as Chuck, an individual who is a member of this
list. I'm not interested in making these arguments personal, but I've
found that human nature dictates that people tend to make arguments
personal. Instead of playing the ball, they play the player.
Oh yes, I'm like every other fucking white person. We all came from the
same mold and we've had exactly identical experiences throughout our lives.
Chuck0
To which I replied:
Where did I write that you "are like every other fucking white person"? Where did express the belief that "people of the same race hold the same position(s)? I said you cannot write as anything other than a white person or think as a non-white person. This is quite different from saying you think exactly like every other white person. Why isn't being Black, Brown, Red, or White an experience or why is that experience assumed to be the same by all Black, Brown, Red, White people so as to make them all hold the same view?
I absolutely cannot write as a non-NDN regardless of all my other life experiences. I know no other NDN's who can either. I know no Blacks who can write as non-Blacks. What skill have you acquired that allows you to not write as a white person but has escaped me and every person of color I have ever known? How did you acquire this skill?
John Thornton