[lbo-talk] language query

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

On 2/6/07, Jerry Monaco <monacojerry at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/6/07, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> > The problem for the confused is that Russell's paradox (and the whole
> > history of logic in which it fits) is _one_ realm, Joanna's examples are
> > another realm. Carl claimed, Bateson claimed, you claimed that the
> > Cretan liar's paradox illuminates the existential actualities Joanna
> > describes. I am not convinced that that _connection_ between logic and
> > actuality has been made in plain old american that cats and dogs can
> > read.
> >
> > Carrol
>
> Well yes, as Bateson was fond of saying, "The Map is not the
> Territory", borrowing from Alfred Korzybski, I believe.  Sometimes the
> map is not even a good guide to the territory.

A "map" is not the right metaphor for "el Sur."  It's a banner, held
up by the leaders of Venezuela and like-minded leaders elsewhere.  At
present, they are a minority, but an insurgent, not declining, group.
They will never win over all countries that could theoretically belong
in "el Sur," but the more they can line up on their terms, the better.
-- 
Yoshie
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