[lbo-talk] Marxism and Religion

jrdavis from_alamut at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 27 04:41:00 PST 2007


I kind of like the slogan of the Crimethinc folk in their manifesto: "All gods; all masters!" Which is an extension of the classic anarchist idea of "masters without slaves" dialectic. jim

"B." <docile_body at yahoo.com> wrote:

If it's sloganeering we're looking for, I much prefer Kropotkin's "No gods, no masters" to your "Workers of all religions and creeds, unite," Charles. ("Life, liberty, and private PROPERTY" can be a creed, FYI.)

Especially if -- as the feeling I'm getting here tells me -- the point is, true or untrue, hey these wacky religions are there, and we can use them, too. So, whether they're true or not, they can be functional for our cause. ("Look at what Catholics get done believing in their stuff!" etc. Yeah - Scientologists, too.)

A lot of the world is religious and believes in the supernatural. More's the pity. I'm not interested in patching bits of socialist or anarchist theory onto those phantasmic fable-systems here or there when I don't believe in thm. Talk about disingenuous, unscrupulous, or even odiously opportunistic

Okay, so we should "understand" religionists. (And like I 've said, I've actually read the Qur'an cover to cover -- about as far out as the Bible.) So where's the pressure for them to understand US? NPR? PBS? Pfft.

-B.

Charles Brown wrote

"Today we might want to consider the slogan "Workers of all religions and creeds, unite!" ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk

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