>A very non-Marxist attitude.
>
Who cares? Did Marx define "Marxism" and the meaning of freedom forever?
> In the tradition that
>comes from Rousseau through Kant and Hegel to Marx,
>freedom, "real" freedom Marx calls it, is obedience to
>the law one has give oneself.
>
Freud would laugh. To be your own priest is still to need a priest. To
write your own script is still to need a script.
> (He uses the expression
>on multiple occasions.) It is, to use your
>terminology, writing your own script and following it.
>
Why a script? You see, from where I sit this is real prudery disguised
as licentiousness.
Why can we not trust the body (and heart and soul) to ask for what is needed when it is needed. Why is a script needed? Why can there not be a sexual "conversation" between two people - a meeting of bodies and desire, within which we spontaneously discover who and how we are as lovers, in this particular moment?
Why a script? How is "law" applicable at all to the unique circumstance of the erotic moment?
Joanna
>
>
>--- joanna <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>My own experience is that leftists hate on kinky
>>>
>>>
>>BDSM sex ALL the
>>
>>
>>>time, maybe even more than honkie america. I've
>>>
>>>
>>gotten in so many
>>
>>
>>>arguments about this with radicals over the years.
>>>
>>>
>> It's so strange.
>>
>>
>>>Why do so many leftos have mean things to say
>>>
>>>
>>about BDSM? Can someone
>>
>>
>>>on this list make whatever argument there is to
>>>
>>>
>>make, about BDSM being
>>
>>
>>>bad or fundamentally oppressive or whatever? I
>>>
>>>
>>just can't imagine
>>
>>
>>>what intellectual content there could be to any
>>>
>>>
>>such assertion.
>>
>>
>>As the resident prude, here goes. I have no problem
>>with whatever
>>happens between consenting adults. The only thing I
>>have taken issue
>>with is the idea that fetishes are a sign of sexual
>>freedom; they are,
>>to me, the very opposite. Freedom is not scripted.
>>
>>Joanna
>>
>>
>>
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