[lbo-talk] Raúl on the 26th + Fidel on Cuba's Self Criticism

Chuck chuck at mutualaid.org
Mon Jul 30 10:09:35 PDT 2007


John Thornton wrote:


> Cuba is a typical post-revolutionary state?

It must be, because Yoshie says that it's self-evident that the Cuban revolution was susscessful. Given how other lefties defend Cuba, it's safe to assume that Cuba demonstrates the kind of revolution that some people on this list want.


> I never knew how successful the other Caribbean, South American, and
> Central American states that underwent similar revolutions really were.
> Which one of them sends as many doctors abroad as Cuba?

I really don't know. Was the Cuban revolution about medical care?


> Which one of them has a literacy rate to rival Cuba?

Hey, at least Cubans can read the packaging on those rice and beans they have to eat every day!


> What other post-revolutionary states have statistical similarities to
> Cuba and what are they?

Are you really arguing that Cuba had a revolution? Scary. Let's hope that there aren't any more like Cuba's. I'd hate to live in that kind of "post-revolutionary" situation.


> Cuba may not be utopia but it is hardly typical.

No, it's not typical. I hope that people really aren't holding up Cuba as some kind of model for a socialist revolution. You ain't going to win many people to your vision for revolution if you hold out Cuba as your model.


> If this is the best rebuttal you have you don't a rebuttal at all.

Rebutting my comments with the standard leftist zombie argument about Cuban doctors is really laughable.


> Since the ultimate fate of Cuba's socialist state has yet to be written
> it points out the folly of nothing except to sooth-seers.

Plenty has been written. 50 years of Castro is enough.

Chuck



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