The real problem for you, my good sir, with this being the Internet is that the old rhetorical styles might not always be as effective ;-). In this case, because there is a record of what people have said. And that's a problem because you are going to have a tough time finding what you claim above: my offering an opinion on N&D. I haven't.
Of course there are various books on which I will offer an opinion, if interested, despite not having read them. But that's another matter...
> At least I've listened to enough U2 to know they're pious bombastic
> hacks.
My, my! You forgot "odious"! Sometimes, its a good thing the Internet is a write-only medium!
--ravi