[lbo-talk] the inevitability of an obama-clinton/clinton-obama ticket

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 5 18:53:51 PST 2008


Horse-race wise, it seems likes Hillary would have to pick Edwards as her VP, though Edwards has notably refused to endorse any Dem candidate. 'Til he can get serious promises that a war on poverty would be among their highest priorities. The irony to me has always been that the white hetero male of the 3 viable Dems seemed (on surface) the most progressive.

As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, it's very hard for me to imagine Hillary with Obama as her VP because, a) there seems to be too much bad blood between them, and b) from an "electability" standpoint -- and maybe I am overly pessimistic -- a white woman and black man as symbolic figureheads of the US in 2008 doesn't seem likely. Methinks a white male hetero must be in the mix somewhere on the Dem ticket, and that for purely tactical reasons thatd o not reflect well on US public attitudes. Obviously, this is a shame.

Of course, I am bad at predicting horse race stuff. I thought Lieberman would be the Dem nominee for president in '04. Instead, Kerry got it, which, i must admit, Chuck0 did predict accurately early on, citing Kerry's money and Skull & Bones connections, among other things. (Kerry has endorsed Obama now.) I thought it'd be Lieberman for the Dems in '04 because Kerry was a Mass. liberal, and Lieberman was very hawkish, a warrior-like dude like Wesley Clark, and in '04 the US public seemed much more out for blood than they do now.

If Hillary wins the Dem candidacy and doesn't get Edwards on board, I don't know who she would pick as VP. Not many viable people leap out. I can't imagine Obama joining her.

-B.

shag wrote:

"there's no other way hillary has a chance at winning. if she doesn't pick him then she'll have to secure his agreement that he turns it down when she asks. otherwise, if she doesn't pick obama as veep, she's dead in the water. she needs his organization and money."



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